You know, pastor, " he said. "There are a lot of PEOPLE in our churches but there aren't very many CHRISTIANS."
"I beg your pardon," I replied.
"There are too many people who go to church but don't live by God's law, they live just like everyone else. They're fake Christians," he said.
"Is that right?" I replied, turning my chair to indicate that this was a conversation I no interest in being a part of. But he didn't take the hint.
"Yeah, too many people think they're Christians but they really aren't. There's no repentance. No outward evidence that they they believe in God. There's too much immorality. Too many concessions to the secular world. They don't believe in the Truth of the bible."
"Really?" I replied, hoping my monosyllabic answers might discourage him. But it seemed to do the opposite. He was just getting started.
"People think that they can sin and still be part of Christ's church. The bible is clear, God HATES sin. God demands obedience from us, not disobedience."
"But didn't Jesus die for our sins?" I asked.
"Jesus may have died for our sins but that doesn't mean we can still go on sinning and expect to go to heaven," he replied.
"So, we can stop sinning if we just put our minds to it?" I asked.
"Yes," he said. "God gave us free will so we can choose to sin or not to sin."
"If God has given us the freedom to sin or not to sin then why did Jesus have to die for our sins, why didn't he just tell us to strengthen our wills to live in obedience?"
And from there it was on. He had pushed my last button.
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